33. How to Shape the Future of Work: Lisa Gill x ‘Leadership and the New Science: Discovering Order in a Chaotic World’

2 Pages with MBS - A podcast by Michael Bungay Stanier - Tuesdays

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The pandemic has accelerated this conversation around the future of work in a way that would have felt inconceivable two years ago. But the future of work isn’t just ‘Zooming’ everything. The bigger questions are: How does power work? How do we stay human-centred? How do we find our way through complexity? In this episode, author and podcast host, Lisa Gill, explores the need for quantum shifts in organisations and the importance of relationships in an archaic company system. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Lisa reads two pages from ‘Leadership and the New Science: Discovering Order in a Chaotic World’ by Meg Wheatley. [reading begins at 08:18] Hear us talk about: The fears lying at the heart of traditional management. [15:46] | The brokenness of relationships within organisations. [17:15] | Where to start in paying attention to relationships: ‘Self-reflection is the first step in fixing relationships.’ [20:34] | How crucial it is to have an active connection to your emotions. [24:48] | “Addressing the paradigm from which you operate must come before development conversations.” [26:34] | “Power is energy.” [31:21] | How to articulate power. [35:23] | How to start building your tribe - the comfort of finding other people who share the same frustrations and goals. [38:05]