Episode 103: Joe Holder, Trainer to the Stars (and Claire!), on All Things Exercise

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We're revisiting some of our favorite episodes! In this one, originally aired 10.2.17, Joe Holder, aka @ochosystem, talks about why getting your head right is more important than getting your body tight. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.