173 | Autism, ADHD, Social Executive Functioning and Horses with Chris Nealy

Chris Nealy earned his Bachelor's and Master's degrees from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Chris’ research focused on Autism and the family. Chris currently provides office-based, nature-based, and in-home psychotherapeutic services for individuals, families, couples, and groups affected by Autism and ADHD.  Chris co-owns Halcyon Mental Health in North Carolina. In this conversation, you will hear Chris, and I discuss some of the similarities of ADHD and Autism.  We also consider techniques that are used with people with Autism and how those strategies can work with others.  Chris talks about the strength and challenge that comes with microexpressions.  At the end of the conversation, Chris shares information on equine therapy.  If you would like to hear the bonus content from this conversation, visit our . Connect with Chris Nealy: Website - Email - You’ll Learn: [05:23] - Chris shares how he fell into his career. [09:11] - Chris shares his experience when he first took medication for his ADHD. [10:50] - Chris talks about the similarities between Autism and ADHD. This leads to a conversation on how these techniques and strategies can work for different people. [15:15] - Chris explains TEACH. Chris talks about this approach and why it makes sense to him. [20:57] - Chris is currently reading Neurotribes. He talks about the idea of the reframing of diagnoses. [23:24] - We discuss a study of individuals with a diagnosis of ADHD and have traits of Autism. This leads to us talking about the fidget spinner popularity.   [28:22] - Chris shares a personal story about not knowing how to do the appropriate thing in public.   [37:00] - People with Autism like predictable situations.  Chris and I talk about communication in social situations.   [43:41] - We talk about the rare cases that a person with ADHD can qualify for disability.  Chris explains how his diagnosis caused his life insurance policy to double in cost. [52:19] - Chris shares that the strength and challenges come with microexpressions. We discuss our struggles with remembering names and conducting phone calls. I share how not having to masquerade as “normal” has helped me be more normal. [1:06:37] - Tony Attwood talks about a large population of Americans with Asperger’s and Autism in China.  We share some thoughts on the reasons for this and talk more about social context and the necessary complex neurological processes. [1:10:05] - Chris explains why “just” is a four-letter word. [1:10:56] - Chris talks about equine therapy for individuals with Autism.    Your Resources: Use my Audible.com affiliate link for your favorite titles: ADHD reWired Coaching and Accountability Group The 10th season of the ADHD reWired Coaching and Accountability group starts on August 21st.  Registration will be open July 19th through 25th.   Go to to learn more and schedule your registration interview. Support the podcast on Patreon Patreon allows listeners like you to support content creators like me.  With a monthly contribution, you can get access to different levels of perks.  Learn more at ADHD reWired Facebook Group: If you would like to join the ADHD reWired secret Facebook group, go to and click “Community” and fill out an application. Productivity Q&A Get your ADHD questions answered live!  These Q&A sessions take place on the 2nd Tuesday of every month at 12:30pm.  Go to . ADHD Women’s Palooza If you missed the ADHD Women’s Palooza, you can purchase all 36 sessions (including mine) for only $197! Check it out here:   Want to be a guest? Hey! What about you?  Do you have a story?  Are you a Coach?  Are you an ADHD Clinician?  If you answered yes to any of these questions and you’d like to be a guest, schedule a pre-interview call .