#178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy

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Michael Malice is an anarchist. Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Both are podcasters and authors. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Ground News: https://ground.news/lex - Public Goods: https://publicgoods.com/lex and use code LEX to get $15 off - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - Brave: https://brave.com/lex - Four Sigmatic: https://foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off EPISODE LINKS: Michael's Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelmalice Michael's Community: https://malice.locals.com/ Michael's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tj5QCpJKIl-KIa4Gib5Xw Michael's Website: http://michaelmalice.com/about/ Yaron's Twitter: https://twitter.com/yaronbrook Yaron's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/ybrook Yaron's Website: https://yaronbrookshow.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (09:43) - Desert island thought experiment (15:00) - Communism (18:30) - Immanuel Kant (19:39) - Donald Hoffman (30:10) - DMT elves (38:52) - Humility (55:45) - Jordan Peterson and religion (1:05:23) - Ben Shapiro: facts don't care about your feelings (1:19:23) - Why Ayn Rand is controversial (1:41:01) - Selfishness (1:44:43) - Communism and fascism (2:11:42) - Authoritarianism (2:20:02) - Bitcoin (2:46:13) - Anarchy debate (3:44:08) - Dangers of communism (3:49:47) - Favorite character in Ayn Rand s Atlas Shrugged (3:58:25) - Advice for young people (4:15:24) - Does love require sacrifice? (4:23:12) - Back to the island