E 54: Navigating the Unknown: The Art of Guiding Change with Adam and Miriam

Beyond Listening - A podcast by Miriam Jones and Adam Rumack, Co-Founders of Open Circle

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In this episode, Adam and Miriam, co founders of Open Circle, dive deep into the complexities of guiding change, offering practical insights into both horizontal and vertical transformations. They emphasize the critical need for understanding and accepting change, while also exploring the common resistance humans face, often rooted in our fear of loss. Throughout the conversation, they address the challenges individuals and organizations encounter when guiding change, from managing resistance to recognizing what is truly essential. Adam and Miriam reflect on how our evolutionary attachment to status and identity can make embracing change difficult, sometimes leading to anxiety, depression, or a lack of meaning. Key Takeaways: Change is constant, and learning to navigate it is crucial. There are two types of change: horizontal (superficial) and vertical (deep, fundamental). Resistance to change, rooted in fear of loss, can block growth and lead to anxiety and depression. Nature teaches valuable lessons on cycles of life and interdependence, providing perspective on change. Vulnerability and listening are key skills for effectively guiding others through transformation. Leaders must reflect on their own biases and be open to learning from others. Links Vertical and Horizontal Change: article by Adam Ruumack Open Circle Training: Guiding Change (October 2024) Research Report: Positive Effects of time spent in nature Research Report: Positive effect of Listening Circle and Mindfulness