Jacinda Ardern - “The easiest trick in politics is blame”
Brendan O'Connor - A podcast by RTÉ Radio 1

Jacinda Ardern, former prime minister of New Zealand joins Dearbhail to talk about her new memoir ‘A Different Kind of Power’. She reflects on growing up in the Mormon faith, her time in politics, knowing when to call it quits, motherhood in the public eye and imposter syndrome.