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#96: Finding the Fourth Frontier (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

from Bret Weinstein | DarkHorse Podcast | Published 9/11/2021

In this 96th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.In this episode, we discuss society, and how to have a functional one. Beginning with a discussion of 9/11, Bret then reads an excerpt from an essay he wrote after the November 2015 Paris attacks. We then share an excerpt from the final chapter of our forthcoming book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, in which we discuss historical frontiers—geographic, technological, and transfer-of-resource. We call for a fourth kind of frontier, and discuss austerity and value, progress and discovery. We compare narrative with analysis, and how most people are not in fact stupid. We discuss the Maya, and what we can learn from them. We also discuss our new nemesis, the very hungry caterpillar.Get your Goliath shirts right here: store.darkhorsepodcast.orgHeather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.comGet your Goliath shirts right here: store.darkhorsepodcast.orgHeather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.comOur book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.orgFind more from us on Bret’s website ( or Heather’s website ( a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast ClipsTheme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.Q&A Link: in this episode:A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://huntergatherersguide.comWeinstein, 2015. Let's not get it wrong this time: The terrorists won after 9/11 because we chose to invade Iraq, shred our Constitution. In Salon: Just five recent conversations we have had about our book: The Joe Rogan Experience: Mind & Matter (3 hour in-depth discussion of many aspects of the book, with Nick Jikomes): Deep Green Resistance (~1 hour wide-ranging discussion on science and society with Derrick Jensen): The Glenn Beck Podcast (expansive conversation about society, politics, and more): The Dr. Debra Soh Podcast (1+ hour discussion largely focused on sex and relationship): the show (

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On The DarkHorse Podcast, we will explore questions that matter, with tools that work. Weekly episodes of "The Evolutionary Lens" are co-hosted with Heather Heying, in which we use an evolutionary toolkit to reveal patterns in nature--including human nature. Other episodes will feature Bret hosting long form discussions. Some guests will be well known, others obscure, but all of them are chosen because they have demonstrated unusual insight. The state and future of civilization will be a recurring theme, so buckle up!