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Brian Windhorst & The Hoop Collective - A podcast by ESPN, NBA, Brian Windhorst

Ahead of Episodes 3 and 4 of "The Last Dance," Brian Windhorst, Jackie MacMullan and ESPN writer Tim Keown dive deep into the complicated man that was -- and still is -- Dennis Rodman. Plus, the crew discusses the '08 Celtics' group message (27:56) and the real reason why Ben Simmons is hesitant to shoot from beyond the arc (39:45).