Nice Try, Tech Bro: Schools Aren’t Daycare and AI Isn’t in Charge
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In this episode of ChatEDU (Nice Try, Tech Bro: Schools Aren’t Daycare and AI Isn’t in Charge), Matt and Liz dive into three stories shaping the future of learning and tech. They start with a prank, then cover an Axios AI survey, Google’s new Beam tech, and a hot debate over whether Duolingo’s CEO dissed teachers. It’s a fast ride across the AI-in-education frontier, ending with a bright byte that’s both mathematically sharp and eco-smart. Plus, a welcome to sponsor zSpace.Story 1: Axios Survey and the New AI Literacy FrameworkA new Axios Harris Poll shows 77% of Americans want AI development to slow down, even if it means delays. Matt and Liz contrast this with AI pushes by the UAE, Duke, and Miami-Dade. They explore a new AI literacy framework from TeachAI, Code.org, and the OECD, with four domains: engaging with AI, creating with it, managing AI actions, and designing solutions. It’s not just tech, it’s about shaping thoughtful, ethical, human-centered learners.Story 2: Google Beam and the Shape of Remote Learning to ComeGoogle Beam, evolving from Project Starline, enables 3D, lifelike communication, no headset needed. It restores eye contact, conveys subtle cues, and offers real-time translation with tone and expression. Matt and Liz consider how Beam could reshape connection, collaboration, and presence in schools.Beneath the Surface: Duolingo and the Limits of AI-First ThinkingDuolingo CEO Luis von Ahn recently claimed schools will mainly serve as daycare while AI handles learning. Matt and Liz respond with a clear “no thanks.” They discuss Duolingo’s contractor layoffs and a user who ended a 1,435-day streak in protest. Replacing teachers with AI, they argue, isn’t just flawed, it’s harmful. Drawing on examples from Cal Poly DXHub and rural innovators in Odisha, they show AI should empower. not replace, learners. The future is human-guided, AI-enhanced, and fueled by creativity.Bright Byte: Alpha Evolve and the Math That Changes EverythingThis week’s Bright Byte features Alpha Evolve, DeepMind’s latest leap. It combines Gemini language models with evolutionary algorithms to write code and solve problems. It reclaimed stranded compute power, cut AI training time, and broke a 56-year-old matrix multiplication record. Matt and Liz explain why it matters and how it could offset AI’s environmental toll with real-world efficiency.Referenced Articles and ResourcesAxios AI Survey (77 Percent Want to Slow Down)https://www.axios.com/2025/05/27/ai-harris-100-poll-move-slow?utm_term=emshareOECD + TeachAI + Code.org Frameworkhttps://www.teachai.org/ailiteracyGoogle Beam Announcementhttps://blog.google/technology/research/project-starline-google-beam-update/NDTV: Duolingo CEO on the Future of Schoolhttps://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/will-schools-exist-in-ai-future-duolingo-ceo-makes-prediction-8446047Cal Poly DXHub and Snopes Partnershiphttps://www.ksby.com/san-luis-obispo/cal-poly-students-using-ai-as-solutions-to-real-world-problemsOdisha Students at Global Summithttps://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/odisha-rural-students-to-showcase-innovative-ideas-at-global-summit-in-usa/articleshow/121274943.cms#:~:text=Odisha%20rural%20students%20to%20showcase%20innovative%20ideas%20at%20global%20summit%20in%20USA,-Hemanta%20Pradhan%20%2F%20May&text=Bhubaneswar%3A%20Eight%20rural%20high%20school,at%20Texas%20State%20University%2C%20USA.DeepMind Alpha Evolvehttps://venturebeat.com/ai/meet-alphaevolve-the-google-ai-that-writes-its-own-code-and-just-saved-millions-in-computing-costs/Announcements & SponsorSummer Micro-Credential Cohort is OpenLearn more and register at: skills21.org/ai/microThis episode is sponsored by the National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing, supporting AI-powered innovation and workforce readiness.https://www.nextgenmfg.org/Also supported in part by zSpace, makers of immersive 3D education tools that don’t require headsets.info.zspace.com/chatedu