Penn Jillette – Magic, Tricks, and Us

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda - A podcast by Alan Alda - Tuesdays

When we see a magic trick, is the magician fooling us, or are we fooling ourselves? Penn Jillette, the talking half of the magic team Penn and Teller, tells Alan how tricks are a test of how we process reality. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid