#018 Building in public with Kevon Cheung

In this episode, I sit down with Kevon Cheung, a leading voice in the #buildinpublic movement. Kevon shares his unique journey from studying business in university to becoming a self-taught developer and then transitioning into teaching others how to build an audience while creating products. We dive deep into the strategies and mindset behind building in public effectively. Kevon explains how to genuinely engage with your target audience, come up with interesting content ideas from real interactions, and build trust over time. He dispels common myths and provides practical tips on using platforms like Twitter, newsletters, and even YouTube for your building in public efforts. Kevon also discusses when building in public may not be the best approach for certain business models. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the importance of blending into communities, soliciting feedback, and earning in public based on your behind-the-scenes work. Whether you're an indie hacker, creator, or just someone looking to build an engaged audience, this episode is packed with insights from one of the experts in the building in public space. Tune in for a masterclass on authentic audience-building from Kevon "The Broccoli Guy" Cheung. --- 00:00 Introduction and Background 00:54 Transition to Indie Hacking 10:09 Building an Audience from Scratch 16:25 Creating Engaging Content 25:54 Creating Valuable Content for Niche Audiences 29:21 Generating Content for B2B Products 32:26 Creating Genuine Content 33:12 Creating Multiple Pieces of Content 34:00 Engagement Bait vs. Genuine Engagement 35:19 Using Feedback to Improve Products 36:28 Building Trust and Gaining Fans 37:36 The Importance of Email Newsletters 38:34 The Power of Email as a Communication Channel 41:52 The Benefits of Email as a Platform-Independent Channel 43:28 Not Every Piece of Content Will Go Viral 46:42 Considering YouTube as a Content Platform 51:44 The Story Behind the Broccoli Logo 55:13 Exploring SaaS Ideas 57:41 Blend into the Community and Build in Private --- Kevon's Twitter: https://twitter.com/MeetKevon Kevon's personal website: https://kevoncheung.com/ Public Lab: https://publiclab.co/ My own website: ⁠⁠https://icebearlabs.com⁠⁠ You can find this podcast on ⁠⁠⁠https://codeandconquer.fm Find our product here: https://repodcasted.com