What could Victoria's path out of lockdown look like?

With the number of new coronavirus infections falling to double digits, Victoria's Premier Daniel Andrews says he will reveal the state's roadmap out of lockdown this weekend. Stage 4 restrictions are due to end on September 13, and many Victorians are wondering what happens past that date. There are many ways the state could approach its return to a more normal existence. So what are some possible benchmarks to reach before they can even consider opening again? On today's show: * What is the pathway out of lockdown for Victoria? * What could stages of normality look like? * What can we learn from how New Zealand got out of stage 4? * How should we define what a hotspot is? * Can a person have two vaccines to get better coverage?