#242 Making Data Accessible Makes Your Data Work Successful - More on PayPal's Data Mesh Journey - Interview w/ Kim Thies

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice!Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see hereEpisode list and links to all available episode transcripts here.Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh.Transcript for this episode (link) provided by Starburst. See their Data Mesh Summit recordings here and their great data mesh resource center here. You can download their Data Mesh for Dummies e-book (info gated) here.Kim's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vtkthies/Gemba Walk explanation #1: https://kanbantool.com/kanban-guide/gemba-walkGemba Walk explanation #2: https://safetyculture.com/topics/gemba-walk/PayPal Data Contract Template OSS: https://github.com/paypal/data-contract-template/tree/main/docsStart with why -- how great leaders inspire action | Simon Sinek | TEDxPugetSound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuAIn this episode, Scott interviewed Kim Thies, at time of recording a Leader on the Enterprise Data Team at PayPal and now SVP, Client Innovation & Data Solutions at ProfitOptics. To be clear, she was only representing her own views on the episode.Some key takeaways/thoughts from Kim's point of view:When talking about data mesh to execs, it's helpful to go back to basics: "these are the four main principles, and this is what we've built and why." Scott note: I recommend you slightly alter the phrasing, especially around "Federated Computational Governance" ;)Look to Simon Sinek and "Start with the Why". Always investigate the why for the other party. What would be enticing to your business execs to lean in on data mesh? But data mesh for the sake of data...