#19 Andy Frank, Co-founder and President of Sealed

Welcome back to another episode of the DER Task Force podcast. This time, we sat down with Andy Frank, co-founder and President of Sealed. In the episode, we talk about:* (0:00) Intros, opening quote* (4:27) Sealed elevator pitch* (6:48) Getting DER-pilled (and allergic reactions), Andy’s 20-year plan * (19:28) What’s so great about heat pumps anyway? And are they really DERs? * (30:12) Driving heat pump adoption, moving from services to solutions, NIMBYism + soft costs * (44:12) Electrifying in a utility’s world, command and control vs distributed solutions * (53:03) Performance-based regulation is not beer, the need for regulated monopolies in the utility space * (56:26) Using incentives to drive change, the mismatch between what the grid needs and what the utility can build * (1:07:05) Crazy idea: Scale Microgrids x Sealed to skirt utility regulation + interconnection delays, making markets work better* (1:13:29) Energy czar of America, bipartisan climate solutions * (1:22:16) Dope or nope?* (1:24:55) Biiiiig shouts* (1:28:55) Bonus big shouts!! And friendly reminder that you can always find us on Spotify, iTunes, or your favorite podcast player. We hope you enjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.dertaskforce.com/subscribe