#119: Strategy | B2B Positioning, Understanding How People Buy and Building Wynter (with Peep Laja)

In this episode, Dave sits down with Peep Laja. Peep is an entrepreneur; he founded a portfolio of companies, including CXL, Speero, and Wynter. He's the active CEO for Wynter, a B2B target customer insights platform. Peep also hosts the How to Win podcast.Peep takes us through the founding story of Wynter, effective strategies for messaging and its impact on conversion rates. You'll also learn how to take customer feedback and use it to create marketing messages that resonate.Timestamps(00:00) - - Introduction (06:19) - - Peep's background and journey into marketing and conversion optimization (11:19) - - The inception of Wynter and the importance of messaging in B2B marketing (16:19) - - Strategies for effective messaging and the role of feedback (21:19) - - The significance of specialization in marketing (26:19) - - Building a brand and audience before launching a new product (32:37) - - Conversion optimization and copywriting (37:37) - - How to approach messaging for technical products and enterprise sales (42:37) - - Utilizing customer feedback to refine messaging strategies (47:37) - - Closing thoughts on the future of marketing and final advice for marketers Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Customer.io.You know that feeling when you open your inbox, and it’s just… noise? Bad marketing. Spam. Most companies are out here just talking at customers, not talking to them.Marketing messages should do more than just land in an inbox – they should create impact and drive real engagement.Customer.io helps companies send smarter, more personalized messages using first-party data. Their platform enables brands to reach customers at the right time, in the right place, on the right channel—whether that’s email, SMS, push notifications, or beyond.And the best part is that it’s all automated, so you’re not just blasting campaigns and hoping for the best. You’re running a machine that delivers real, human engagement at scale.7,000+ brands already trust Customer.io to make their marketing feel less like noise and more like connection. Join them by visiting Customer.io to get started. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more