#164: Content | Why Better Marketing Starts With Sales with Adam Goyette

Dave sits down with Adam Goyette, founder of Growth Union and a former marketing leader at G2 and Help Scout. Adam shares his insights from leading growth at top B2B companies to launching his own agency that helps startups scale by integrating holistic growth strategies.Adam and Dave cover:How marketing can drive demos that aren’t qualified and how to fix itWhy MQLs aren’t efficient incentives for marketing teamsHow to use feedback from Sales to create better marketing contentTimestamps(00:00) - - Why Working With B2B Agencies is So Hard (06:43) - - Marketing in 2024 (10:39) - - How to Actually Test Your Marketing Campaigns (12:44) - - Organizing Your Marketing Team (15:39) - - Setting Aside Budget For Experiments (23:29) - - How to Ask Qualifying Questions (24:50) - - Balancing Brand Building and Conversion (29:22) - - Advocating for Marketing Strategy Internally (34:16) - - Using Feedback from Sales to Create Content (39:57) - - How to Test and Iterate Quickly (48:07) - - Adwords Keyword Optimization and Ad Copy (49:16) - - Marketing Leadership in SaaS at a Scale Up Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Customer.io.You know that feeling when you open your inbox, and it’s just… noise? Bad marketing. Spam. Most companies are out here just talking at customers, not talking to them.Marketing messages should do more than just land in an inbox – they should create impact and drive real engagement.Customer.io helps companies send smarter, more personalized messages using first-party data. Their platform enables brands to reach customers at the right time, in the right place, on the right channel—whether that’s email, SMS, push notifications, or beyond.And the best part is that it’s all automated, so you’re not just blasting campaigns and hoping for the best. You’re running a machine that delivers real, human engagement at scale.7,000+ brands already trust Customer.io to make their marketing feel less like noise and more like connection. Join them by visiting Customer.io to get started. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more