#165: Strategy | How to Create Data-Driven Content to Build Trust and Stand Out with Emir Atli of HockeyStack
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Dave is joined by Emir Atli, the founder and CRO of HockeyStack. Emir shares insights on his strategic content creation on LinkedIn to building a robust attribution platform that helps B2B marketers optimize revenue and understand customer journeys.Emir and Dave cover:How Emir and his team built a LinkedIn audience before launching their product and turned engagement into a strategic advantageUsing custom reporting and attribution to make better B2B marketing decisionsCreating data-driven content with HockeyStack Labs to build trust and establish thought leadershipTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (05:02) - - Early Days at HockeyStack: Outreach and Launch (12:39) - - Scaling Content Distribution and Launching Podcasts (14:04) - - Transitioning to Event and Field Marketing (19:11) - - Transitioning from CMO to Media Company CEO (26:39) - - How to Build Trust at Scale (30:33) - - Content Marketing Benchmarks and Data (33:17) - - Sample Sizes, Metrics, and Context in Research Reporting (41:42) - - How to Actually Use Reporting Tools (42:59) - - Creating Custom Reports and Templates (45:39) - - Tracking Traditional Touch Points Digitally Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Customer.io.You know that feeling when you open your inbox, and it’s just… noise? Bad marketing. Spam. Most companies are out here just talking at customers, not talking to them.Marketing messages should do more than just land in an inbox – they should create impact and drive real engagement.Customer.io helps companies send smarter, more personalized messages using first-party data. Their platform enables brands to reach customers at the right time, in the right place, on the right channel—whether that’s email, SMS, push notifications, or beyond.And the best part is that it’s all automated, so you’re not just blasting campaigns and hoping for the best. You’re running a machine that delivers real, human engagement at scale.7,000+ brands already trust Customer.io to make their marketing feel less like noise and more like connection. Join them by visiting Customer.io to get started. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more