05: Spies in the Outback | The secrets of Pine Gap

Host Alex Barwick hears just how far Pine Gap’s reach is today, uncovers the secrets of stolen land and explores what it means for Australia to have a spy base hidden in the heart of the country.  Host: Alex Barwick  Supervising producer: Piia Wirsu  Sound engineer and producer: Grant Wolter  Executive producer: Blythe Moore  Additional production and research: Elsa Silberstein  Special thanks: Eric George, Robert Mailer, Tim Roxburgh, Jane Connors, Mark Maley, Elizabeth Beal, ABC Alice Springs, and everyone who agreed to speak with us    Further reading:  David Rosenberg - Inside Pine Gap  Brian Toohey - Secret  Kieran Finnane - Peace Crimes  Desmond Ball - A Suitable Piece of Real Estate