Ugo Monye, Natalie Pike, Phil Brown, Kae Kurd

Fighting Talk - A podcast by BBC Radio 5 Live - Saturdays

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Former England rugby player Ugo Monye, football presenter Natalie Pike, football manager Phil Brown and comedian Kae Kurd join Colin Murray for an hour of sporting punditry, humour and entertainment. Points are awarded for informed comment, wit and passion, but taken away for nonsense and answers lacking in conviction. In the final round, the top two points scorers go head-to-head in 'Defend the Indefensible' where they must both defend a statement however ludicrous or distasteful for twenty seconds. There can only be one winner! Get the podcast from BBC Sounds