33 - Beyond the ‘Gifted’ Label: A Conversation w/ Jessie Mannisto
Gender: A Wider Lens - A podcast by Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

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Stella and Sasha sit down with Jessie Mannisto, the Editor in Chief of Third Factor Magazine, a publication for and about uncommon people and their uncommon paths through life. Jessie expands on the many overlapping experiences of gifted, creative, intense, and gender dysphoric individuals. They explore some critiques and uses of terms like ‘queer’ and ‘asexual.’ Stella and Sasha ask Jessie about androgyny, loneliness, ordinariness, and exceptionalism in dysphoria people. And what’s up with anime and fan fiction amongst gender-questioning youth? Links:Jessie Mannisto on Sasha’s YouTube Channel Disintegration as an Opportunity for Growth: Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGBcqT6h0Pw&t=1081s Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKpuoR9-zg&t=2s Where Intensity and Gender Dysphoria Meet: https://www.thirdfactor.org/intensity-gender-dysphoria Existential Depression in Gifted Individuals:https://www.sengifted.org/post/existential-depression-in-gifted-individuals Rainforest mind - Paula Prober: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Rainforest-Mind-Well-Being-Gifted/dp/0692713107 Hilary Jacobs Hendel - https://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-Always-Depression-Authentic/dp/0399588140 Creativity https://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Psychology-Discovery-Invention-Perennial-ebook/dp/B000TG1X9C Third Factor Magazine: https://www.thirdfactor.org/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thirdfactormag?lang=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThirdFactorMag/ Extended NotesA little bit about Jessie and how she got involved in the field of giftedness and overexcitability.Jessie noticed a connection between gender dysphoric people and giftedness.What is the definition of “giftedness”?There are five domains or key areas where you can be gifted: Intellect, imagination, psychomotor, sensory, and emotions.How do these domains manifest into those who are extremely gifted?Although not a reliable measure, overexcitability is often linked to giftedness. One of the ways people tried to test for giftedness was through overexcitability, but it was not conclusive.What is the “hedgehog dilemma”?The more that you’re an outlier, the more you try to seek out people who are like you to confirm that you’re “okay” and not abnormal.Belonging is the biggest issue for these types of people.What is a “magnet” school?Most gifted people know they’re difficult and can be hard to manage. Jessie believes some of these... This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe