Interviews with Frank Herbert: “All governments lie.”

Abu and Leo bring you the words of Frank Herbert himself, pulling from interviews and articles going back over 50 years.  This episode contains SPOILERS for Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content by becoming a Patron Check out the custom-designed Dune swag on our merch store Watch video versions of select episodes on YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices