Larissa Waters' plan for the Greens, Trump guessing game + lab-grown meat

What's next for the Greens? We sit down with the new leader Larissa Waters to ask about her plan, the lessons from the election, and whether the Greens block progress.  Plus, the Iran-Israel conflict is getting more deadly. Is Trump about to get America involved? As he says: "nobody knows". Also, another festival is officially in voluntary administration: Victoria's Esoteric Festival.   And some lab-grown meat products have been approved for sale in Australia.  Listen now:  01:00 - "Nobody knows": Trump on whether the US will intervene in the Iran-Israel conflict 05:45 - Hack speaks to the new Greens leader Larissa Waters 20:10 - Another music festival folds 25:18 - Australia's first lab grown meat Guests:  Larissa Waters, Greens leader Dr Hope Johnson, socio-legal researcher, Queensland University of Technology Get the whole story from Hack: Follow us on Instagram Subscribe to the hack podcast Listen on the triple j app or on your radio live at 5:30pm