The Shakeup: red white and blueland, TikTok's gender divide + reality TV rise

Donald Trump's been hitting the phones this week, calling everyone from Vladimir Putin to Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Anthony Albanese. So what did they talk about? And a voice note TikTok followed by a crying podcast response and a pile-on: everyone has an opinion on the latest influencer drama between Jordan Tan and Jack Mac.  Plus, Montoya, por favor: why we're all obsessed with watching heartbreak on reality TV.  Host Dave Marchese is joined by content creator Emily Grosser and KIIS FM newsreader Brooklyn Ross.