Ditch the Spreadsheets: Smarter Crypto Security with Michael Klieman
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Still tracking certificates in a spreadsheet? You’re not alone—and there’s a better way. In this special episode from RSA 2025, Ron sits down with Michael Klieman, Global Vice President of Product Management for Digital Security Solutions at Entrust, to discuss how leading organizations are rethinking cryptographic security. From simplifying certificate management to preparing for a post-quantum future, this conversation covers real-world risks, surprising breach stories, and practical steps for bringing order to crypto chaos—without the stress. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction04:00 – Three major problems with crypto today06:45 – Certificates often missing from inventories08:30 – Managing EV charging infrastructure with spreadsheets11:00 – The two biggest certificate-related risks12:50 – Expired certs can tank brand trust14:45 – Automation usually comes after spreadsheets16:30 – Why quantum risk grows every year18:15 – Start with a cryptographic inventory20:30 – Nation-state threats and critical infrastructure22:15 – AI could fast-track quantum breakthroughs24:45 – Entrust’s new unified crypto security platform26:35 – One question every CISO must answer in 2025 Links: Connect with our guest, Michael Klieman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mklieman/ Learn more about Entrust at: https://entrust.com/csp Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/