Convos With Cathy - The Rise of Individualism, Testing the Truth, & Church Evolving

Hillsong Church London - A podcast by Hillsong Church London

Our very own Ben Bluemel chats with me about what made him make the leap from being a lawyer to becoming a pastor, how the rise of individualism has affected society (and the church), and his thoughts on where the megachurch may be headed. Such a great convo!