13.9 Jess Phillips, MP

Are you posh? Or do you just like olives? Viv Groskop talks to Jess Phillips, Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley and Shadow Minister for Domestic Violence and Safeguarding. They talk olives, going viral and why a joke will help get your point across. Jess reveals how she learned to communicate working in a pub, how showing confidence gives others confidence, and how other people saying stupid things is a great encouragement to speak up. Plus why women need to know they don't need to be perfect for politics. Jess's new book Everything You Really Need to Know About Politics: My Life As an MP is out now. Viv's latest book, Lift As You Climb is out now. @vivgroskop