In Conversation With... Nicholas Ma and Michael Gulker
In Conversation With..... An Ideos Institute/ (Re)union Project Podcast - A podcast by Ideos Institute

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In this conversation, Greg Arthur from Ideos Institute engages with Michael Gulker and Nicholas Ma to discuss the challenges and possibilities of cultivating unity within the church amidst a polarized society. They explore the themes of healing divisions, the role of film in bridging differences, and the importance of vulnerability and accountability in leadership. The discussion highlights the unexpected connections formed among diverse pastors and the transformative power of curiosity and empathy in fostering relationships. The conversation culminates in reflections on hope and the broader message of their film, 'Leap of Faith', which aims to inspire audiences to take their own leaps towards unity and love.