Episode 13 - Where There's a Control System, There's a Whiteboard

Today, we are going to be talking with Kate Vajda about ICS security. Books mentioned in this episode: Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win - Jocko Willink No Rules Rules: Netflix and the Culture of Reinvention - Reed Hastings Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard - Chip Heath, Dan Heath