#2 What makes a good Design Leader and why are Apple still so relevant in the design world?

Jake and Jonathan - A podcast by Jake Knapp & Jonathan Courtney

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What is The Product Breakfast Club? The Product Breakfast Club is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of “Sprint”, has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, co-founder of AJ&Smart, has worked with companies like RedBull, eBay and the United Nations, to help them build better products faster. In this new, exciting podcast, the two of them have teamed up to discuss things like product design, innovation and productivity. Welcome to episode 2 of the Product Breakfast club podcast from AJ&Smart. This time Jon’s co-founder (the Smart in AJ&Smart) Michael Smart joins in on the action. The gang discuss the iPhone bubble so many of us are still caught in, the importance of leadership in innovative companies & what happens after a Design Sprint! Don’t forget to subscribe to our podcast on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts.