Curt Vendel.
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Curt Vendel. Curt's 2003 BBS Documentary appearance: https://archive.org/details/bbs-20030323-vendel Curt at the 2019 VCF Festival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlqxDgnYHWU Curt and Marty's book: https://www.amazon.com/Atari-Inc-Business-Curt-Vendel/dp/0985597402