A general conversation with Gareth Cliff (2020)

This podcast is a re-upload. It was recorded on 5 May, 2020. To quote Wikipedia, "Gareth Cliff is a South African radio and television personality. He began his professional radio career at 702, and later became the host of the breakfast show on 5FM." Gareth is a wealth of knowledge and easily one of South Africa’s most memorable media personalities. He left broadcast radio during 2014, and launched CliffCentral, an internet-based radio station. Like me, he lives rent-free in the minds of many thought police, which means he is doing something right.