Lis Smith

When Kasich is away, the Democrats will play. Jordan Klepper is without his partner in civility this week, so he welcomes Lis Smith, Democratic strategist for more than 20 political campaigns including Barack Obama, Andrew Cuomo and Pete Buttigieg. Jordan and Lis debate Biden’s favorability struggles, whether a “nice” candidate like Pete Buttigieg can survive in this hellish political landscape, and how they both prep to talk with Fox News or MAGA supporters. They also break down whether the DOJ will actually bring Trump to justice and Lis describes what it’s like behind closed doors in Washington with the titillating-yet-scary stories in her new book. Lis’ NYT bestseller, ANY GIVEN TUESDAY: A POLITICAL LOVE STORY is out now wherever you buy your books. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices