15. Clare Graves, Spiral Dynamics, and Stage Theory Critique (w/ Henry Andrews)

Brendan talks to Henry Andrews about the legacy of Clare Graves's work, which formed the basis of the Spiral Dynamics framework, which has in turn highly influenced the articulation of integral theory. After going over some of the history, the discussion then turns to the "Great Stage Theory Debate" (Henry's coinage) initiated by a comment by Nora Bateson on social media that re-ignited debate over long-standing critiques of stage theories in general.   0:00 Introduction  2:53 Stage 1: The Research of Clare Graves  12:53 Stage 2: Don Beck, Christopher Cowan, and Spiral Dynamics  20:01 Stage 3: Ken Wilber and SDi  24:46 Stage 4: Hanzi Freinacht and Political Metamodernism 28:11 The "Great Stage Theory Debate": Seeking a "Both/And" Approach  46:04 Debate in the Social Media Landscape 47:59 Transcending the Stage of Stage Theorization: Practice for Playing Jazz