218 - Negotiating with Women

"Hi Sandman, I was thinking about a possible topic, but this topic you may not like. Looking deep into the future, in a hypothetical circumstance where women are finally willing to negotiate new terms on relationship dynamics. What would you see as a workable set of expectations for both sexes? Well, thanks for your question Shoveler. First of all this is a question is more of an MRA then a MGTOW question. But I will try to answer it, because I do support to some extent what the MRA is doing. Many MRA's are hopeful about the future whereas men going their own way are more realistic about our prospects with women in the future. Our view is unique in that most of us don't have the complete lack of empathy that many PUAs have towards women but we don't have the same amount of hope and empathy that MRAs have towards women and society in general. Our philosophy is balanced and healthy because we are realists. And being realists we see female nature for what it is and we try to remove the mangina goggles from our eyes. The only way I see women re-negotiating with men is if women once again become dependent on men for their livelihoods and there's no birth control and the end of no fault divorce. Women are now entitled to these things and they will fight for them tooth and nail. And they will not negotiate as long as they have the upper hand. Women have more rights then men in our society today. Women have more political power and access to financial resources through their own jobs and through men as by proxy wage earners. Women have it good in relationships where they earn less then their husbands and partners. If you had it that good you wouldn't want to negotiate, you'd try to get more. And that's exactly what feminism is about, ever increasing privilege for women inside and outside relationships. And with gynocentric culture it's all or nothing. You can't have half of females falling into subservient roles while the other half continue to use men and the state. It has to be all or nothing. As soon as you give one group of women a choice, immediately other groups of women will want that choice as well if it offers some kind of benefit. That's why there are so many women against feminism popping up. Because they see women like Karen Straughan and Alison Tieman and they see the comments section where hundreds of men say this is their dream girl and they think to themselves, I want men saying that about me. The three videosI have up with Girl Writes What are littered with such comments. The few female friends I've shown Karen's videos instantly start trashing her, calling her a man but they won't admit to themselves that they are jealous of all the attention that she gets.MOTHER COW PROVES ANIMALS LOVE, THINK & ACThttp://www.globalanimal.org/2012/04/1...Why more women choose not to marryhttp://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/opinion...Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/mgtow/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy