Activism vs. Organizing: A Deep Dive The Weaponization of Data ft Dr. David Johns

In this conversation, Dr. Raquel Martin speaks with Dr. David Johns about the critical differences between activism and organizing, particularly in the context of social justice for Black LGBTQ+ individuals and the mental health crisis facing Black youth. They discuss the alarming rise in suicide rates among Black youth, the importance of accurate data collection, and the need for community engagement and education to foster long-term change. Dr. Johns emphasizes the role of self-work and understanding systemic issues in effective activism. In this conversation, DJJ and Dr. Raquel Martin explore the complexities of data, language, and identity within the context of systemic oppression and white supremacy. They discuss the importance of understanding how language can perpetuate privilege and division, the need for community and relational organizing, and the tools necessary to combat these issues. The conversation also touches on the evolution of narratives in mental health and the importance of cultural competence in providing support to marginalized communities. In this engaging conversation, Dr. Raquel Martin and DJJ explore the complexities of parenting, particularly the tension between parental desires and children's autonomy. They discuss the significance of imaginative play, the distinction between legacy and lineage, and the importance of understanding intent versus impact in parenting. The dialogue emphasizes the need for community support and advocacy in navigating these challenges, ultimately celebrating the unique identities and desires of children.   Takeaways Activism and organizing are complementary tools for change. Activism focuses on immediate actions, while organizing builds community strength. Suicide rates among Black youth are rising, contrary to some data reports. Data collection often fails to capture the true scope of issues. Mistrust in data collection affects the accuracy of mental health statistics. Education is crucial for effective activism and organizing. Legislation targeting LGBTQ+ individuals correlates with increased mental health crises.  Bio Dr. David J. Johns is the CEO and executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC), a civil rights organization for Black LGBTQ+/SGL people and those living with HIV/AIDS. Appointed by President Obama, he was the first executive director of the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans (2013-2017). He has also served as a senior education policy advisor in the Senate and as a Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Fellow. Dr. Johns holds a Ph.D. in sociology and education policy from Columbia University, where he also earned his master’s and bachelor’s degrees. His accolades include the Active Advocate Award at BET’s Black and Iconic celebration (2024), the Out100 list (2021), the Root100 (2013, 2014), Ebony’s Power 100 (2015), and an early career award from Columbia University (2016).