Ally Fogg/ People not Labels

Does feminism truly lead to a liberation of traditional masculinity? Or does it just critique? Ally Fogg, writer for The Guardian and many other publications, has been asking these questions for years. And not only that has worked to push the UK government for a more gender-inclusive language when they talk about issues like violence. We spoke in the summer a little after the many terrorist attacks in the UK, and we also talk about the dangers of labels, especially on politicians.