The Size Up Episode 106 - After The Fire - Shawn & Al
National Fire Radio Podcast Platform - A podcast by Jeremy Donch

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In this episode of 'The Size Up, Pip engages with fire survivors Shawn Simons and Alvaro Llanos, who transformed their traumatic experience from the Seton Hall fire into a mission of fire safety education. They discuss the evolution of their program over 13 years, the impact of social media in reaching young adults, and the importance of fire safety awareness in college settings. The conversation delves into their personal stories, the changes in legislation following the fire, and the critical lessons learned about emergency preparedness and survival instincts during a fire. In this conversation, Shawn and Al share their harrowing experiences as burn survivors and their mission to raise awareness about fire safety. They discuss the importance of education and preparedness, recount their time in the burn unit, and emphasize the need for community support and advocacy. Their journey highlights the impact of storytelling in changing perceptions and behaviors regarding fire safety, especially among young adults. Shawn and Al share their experiences and insights on various topics, from the joys of day drinking to the movies that have shaped their lives. They discuss their favorite romantic comedies, celebrity road trip companions, and the importance of making one's bed. The duo also highlights their travel adventures, bucket list destinations, and the significance of their book, 'After the Fire.' They reflect on the differences between American football and soccer, and offer heartfelt advice to their younger selves, emphasizing resilience and patience in the face of adversity.