Cartels, Immigration, and AMLO with CFR’s Shannon O’Neil

John interviews Shannon O’Neil from the Council on Foreign Relations about the state of America’s southern neighbor. They discuss Mexico’s fight against COVID-19, President López Obrador’s surprisingly austere fiscal policies, why cartels are changing their business model, and the difference between President Biden and former President Trump’s approach to immigration. Plus: how AMLO — as Mexico's president is known — is actually more conservative than President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com