Who Gotta Get Outta This Place - "The Beast Below" & "The Ark"

No Not the Mind Probe: A Doctor Who podcast - A podcast by Porter Mason & John Grant - Mondays

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In this episode, John and Porter take a brief break from their ever-present worries of solar flares, to discuss a couple of episodes where humanity attempts to rescue itself by subjugating other species. It doesn't work out well. The Doctor Who stories, John's faith in the fate of humanity, none of it works out well.