S12 E1: When the Problem Becomes the Solution with Rob Avis

When I invited Rob Avis of Verge Permaculture to come on the podcast, I thought we'd be talking about food forests and garden design. Little did I know we'd be diving guilt around existence, how to use problems as a roadmap to solutions, and strategies for thinking holistically in every area of life. This is one of my top 5 favorite interviews to date- don't miss it! Be sure to check out Toups & Co, a small homestead family that makes amazing skin products from natural ingredients. Go t...