Effective Leadership and Successful Organisational Change, with John P. Kotter

The Road to Effective Leadership and Successful Organizational Change, with John P. Kotter   John P. Kotter joins us on the show for episode 25 of the Re-Thinking the Human Factor Podcast.   We know that while some of our listeners will see his name and ask themselves, “Who?”,  those who are familiar with John P. Kotter’s work will be asking, “How?”. As in, ‘How did they get him on the podcast?’. Wherever you find yourself on the spectrum, we are very excited to bring you this interview with someone whom we consider to be a living legend.   John P. Kotter is regarded by many as the authority on leadership and change. He is a New York Times best-selling author, award winning business and management thought leader, business entrepreneur, inspirational speaker and Harvard Professor. Kotter’s ideas, books, speeches, and company, Kotter International, have helped mobilise people around the world to better lead organisations, and their own lives, in an era of increasingly rapid change.   Change management is an area in cyber security that requires consistent learning, creativity, re-tooling, and re-thinking. We know that. So we are excited to share this pertinent interview with you today. JOIN JOHN KOTTER AND BRUCE HALLAS AS THEY DISCUSS: The importance of having time for reflection in order to bring about clarity of thought. Clarity is the door to creativity, curiosity, innovation, and ultimately, change. We have two systems operating at a subconscious level - Survival Mode, a system developed over time to help us identify and respond to threats quickly in order to to ensure survival. Thrive mode, which is the brain’s system for recognising opportunity and is most likely responsible for our species emerging from the Savannah and from caves. Understanding these two modes is important. An organisation whose leaders and workers operating most often in Survival Mode will have a far more difficult time accessing the clarity and creativity that Thrive Mode affords us. This ultimately means that change and innovation will be more difficult to accomplish in those organisations. What factors are present in organisations that have successfully implemented organisational changes vs. those that fail to meet their objectives. Understanding various barriers to change, such as - How our dominant survival trait when married with desire for consistent output creates an environment where change is difficult Complacency, a huge barrier to change False urgency, which is driven by the Survival system The power of a Guiding Coalition to help achieve organisational change and the difference between that style of leadership vs. traditional management styles Best practice around communication - Emotional communication is more sticky than dry, non-emotional messaging. Interestingly enough, a person with buy-in for an idea is more likely to naturally convey emotion when speaking about the idea than the one who is going along because he/she has to do so. Frequency is also key to making messages stick Communicating ideas in various ways helps ensure the message is picked up by lots of different people Enabling situations where quick wins are possible for an organisation is a necessary practice for a few reasons - Establishing credibility for a change initiative is a huge issue at the beginning of the change process, and quick wins establish the necessary trust in an idea so that buy-in is possible. Quick wins then enact the Thrive System in the brain when the brain receives feedback that progress is being made. A series of wins keeps the Thrive System running and helps people to hang in for the long haul of proposed change.   RESOURCES AND TOPICS FOR FURTHER STUDY Guiding Coalitions The availability heuristic bias Survival Mode vs. Thrive Mode   MORE ABOUT JOHN P. KOTTER: LinkedIn   Please subscribe to the podcast in iTunes, and if you enjoyed this interview, please share with your friends and colleagues and leave a 5 star rating and review.   Thanks for listening and sharing.   Bruce & The Re-thinking the Human Factor Podcast Team

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Welcome to the Re-Thinking the Human Factor podcast. It’s a podcast for information security professionals, where we will be asking our guests to share thoughts and insights on security awareness, behaviour and culture. Our guests come, predominately, from outside of the security industry. They all specialise in elements of awareness, behaviour and culture, or they have effectively tackled similar challenges, in their own industry or careers. The one thing that unites them all is their willingness to share their experience in the hope it might give our audience food for thought.