Episode 5: Celo and cLabs with Markus Franke
ReFi Podcast - A podcast by Tereza Bízková, Maya Z. Dentzel

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On the 5th episode of ReFi Podcast, we sit with Markus Franke. We hear about cLabs and the vision for Celo—a mobile-first blockchain. We discuss natural capital backed currencies, universal basic income, and so much more. Some of the topics we jump into: 00:00 Intro 01:10 What is Celo and cLabs? 01:51 Celo is a layer 1 blockchain... 05:09 What piece of this puzzle are you involved in? 07:51 Markus "How can we build nature backed currencies on Celo?..." 09:27 Building a simple inclusive mobile system 11:31 Markus "the user experience is very important.." 16:33 What's being built on Celo right now that's redesigning financial systems? 18:11 Markus "kickstarter are decentralising and using Celo.." 21:26 Why is DeFi liquidity good for inclusion? 23:50 Markus "if theres strong liquidity in DeFi then people everywhere can get a loan on Celo" 25:45 How are you making liquidity sustainable on Celo? 27:26 Markus "from the start Defi had a mission to make defi accessible to any mobile user...." 28:59 Markus "this can be used to finance universal income.." 30:19 Markus "this opens up so many possibilities, having something like kickstarter on the blockchain... economic value is created in a sustainable way" 30:51 Empowering people to participate in the financial systems while mitigating risks 35:59 Markus "when we built the protocol we built a simulation...to learn...to see stability..." 37:45 Provo project 39:19 Markus "provo allows banks to try the technology..." 40:09 Can you see your stable coin portfolio sit along side with central bank digital currencies? 40:35 Markus the amazing thing about this technology is it finally allows for competition between currency..innovation..haven't seen innovation for 200 years..." 42:59 The current state of money 45.29 where does money actually come from? 50:09 natural backed currencies in the regenerative system 53:44 Markus "backing money with trees...what we want to see more of..." 54:35 Setting the right financial incentives in nature 58:49 Bringing the natural capital assets on chain 01:04:12 johnx25bd drops some alpha on Astra protocol 01:12:40 Markus "It was interesting to see with NFTs...nature and trees can be NFTs..." 01:13:18 The opportunity in the ReFi movement to redesign money to regenerate the environment 01:16:56 Why should people build on Celo? Follow Markus and check out cLabs and Celo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markus-f-82242028/ https://clabs.co/ https://celo.org/ -------------------------------------------- Join the conversation on Twitter, follow https://twitter.com/ReFiDAOist https://twitter.com/climateXcrypto https://twitter.com/johnx25bd Thanks to Feed Ignite for the podcast and micro-content production: https://feedignite.com