Tracking Wildlife and the Origins of Holistic Management with Allan Savory
Ruminations - A podcast by Savory Institute

In the inaugural episode of the Ruminations podcast, host Bobby Gill sits down with Allan Savory, the renowned founder of Holistic Management and the Savory Institute. The conversation explores Allan’s adventurous beginnings as a young game ranger in southern Africa, his time in military leadership, politics, and ecological research—all unfolding during a transformative period in global history. This episode highlights how a unique convergence of circumstances—colonial collapse, ecological degradation, and Allan’s cross-disciplinary career—created the conditions for the development of Holistic Management. Allan shares how insights from tracking, land stewardship, and systems thinking challenged conventional science and laid the foundation for a groundbreaking framework that has since changed the way we understand and manage complexity in agriculture. We also get a preview of Allan’s forthcoming memoir, which captures the rich backstory behind one of the most influential ecological movements of our time. In this premiere episode of @SavoryInstitute’s Ruminations podcast, Allan joins host Bobby Gill to reflect on: - How a Young Game Ranger Became a Global Voice for Regeneration- The Birth of Holistic Management Amidst Colonial Collapse, War & Wildlife- Why Solving Desertification Requires More Than Just Science +++ ALL EPISODES:https://savory.global/podcast JOIN THE COMMUNITY + GET MEMBERS-ONLY PERKS:https://savory.global/member GET INVOLVED WITH SAVORY INSTITUTE:https://savory.global/find-your-path +++ TIME STAMPS: 00:09 Allan Savory's Early Adventures 01:31 The Birth of Holistic Management 02:03 Allan's Memoir and Life Reflections 02:37 A Peek into Allan's Study 04:30 Diverse Career and Early Influences 09:25 Challenges and Insights in Wildlife Management 12:40 The Concept of Holistic Management 27:48 Contributions of Jan Smuts and André Voisin 47:03 Military Influence on Holistic Planning 51:53 Introduction to Holistic Management 53:43 The Importance of Livestock in Holistic Grazing 56:39 The Influence of John Acox 01:06:41 Early Career and Wildlife Passion 01:16:17 Tracking and Ecology Insights 01:23:52 Advanced Tracking Techniques 01:32:18 Connecting Ecology and Wildlife Management 01:33:30 The Hippo in the Swamp 01:41:28 The Monkwala Talisman 01:47:38 Rhodesian History and Ian Smith 01:53:18 Racial Tensions and Personal Growth 02:08:32 The Controversy of Elephant Culling 02:14:03 Holistic Management and Future Hopes +++ This episode is brought to you by Savory’s Regenerating Members, a global community restoring over 100 million acres through holistic management. Join today for just $10/month and help regenerate 400+ acres every year:https://savory.global/member Want to sponsor an episode? https://savory.global/podcast +++ MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Savory Institute Allan Savory's memoir Holistic Management Textbook Voisin’s Rational Grazing Diffusion of Innovations – Everett Rogers +++ FIND US ON SOCIAL: • YouTube: @SavoryInstitute• Instagram: @savoryinstitute• LinkedIn: Savory Institute +++ HAVE A GUEST SUGGESTION? We’d love to hear your thoughts:https://www.tfaforms.com/5169997