Matthew Petti on Middle East Spaghetti Logic

This week, Patrick C. Fox and John Allen Gay interview Matthew Petti, a young independent journalist covering the Middle East. In this conversation we cover the origins of the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, America's ongoing presence and path out of Syria, the context of the Iranian hostage exchange and the "spaghetti logic" of Henry Kissinger's realism. Matthew Petti's Substack Matthew's essay on Kissinger and Realism