Incrementalism is Like Lipstick on a Pig

The girls are joined for this episode by Zachary Conover, the Communication Director for End Abortion Now. He has been to pro-life conferences, interviewed the major players in the pro-life movement, and travelled (alongside Joy!) to Ireland to help churches fight to keep abortion illegal there. He helps us think through why the Pro-Life Movement has largely been a failure, why incremental legislation is like putting lipstick on a pig (our words, not his), and why Christians should have a radically different position on how to end abortion immediately than many of us actually live out in the voting booth or with our political affiliations.