Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jane Perlez on her new podcast series, Face-Off

This week on Sinica, veteran reporter Jane Perlez, who served as bureau chief for the New York Times in Beijing until 2019, joins to discuss her new podcast series Face-Off, which explores different facets of the U.S.-China relationship. We also talk about the state of Western journalism in China in the wake of tit-for-tat expulsions of reporters from the U.S. and China that took place during the Trump administration, and the challenges of covering China well without people on the ground in country. 5:16 – How Jane Perlez got into podcasting 7:59 – The challenge of understanding Xi Jinping 12:44 – The Face-Off podcast and appealing to a general audience 19:00 – Face-Off’s interview with Zhao Tong on the nuclear issue; the importance of quality diplomacy; and debating the efficacy of the S&ED 30:48 – The pleasure of meeting Yo-Yo Ma  36:52 – The state of Western journalists in China, and how the situation may eventually play out  48:44 – The difficulty of covering China from the outside  53:52 – What’s next for Jane Perlez and the Face-Off podcast Recommendations: Jane: Judgment at Tokyo: World War II on Trial and the Making of Modern Asia by Gary Bass Kaiser: The Russo-Ukrainian War: The Return of History by Serhii Plokhy  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.