Pence Gets a Spine (w/ Jon Ward & Jim Pasco)

Last week former Vice President Mike Pence, in a speech to the Federalist Society, delivered his most forceful rebuke yet to the man he had faithfully served for four years - Donald Trump. It may as well have been Pence's finest hour. Not only did he tell Trump that he was flat out wrong in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, but there was, "no idea more Un-American than Trump's persistent intreaties to him that he unilaterally toss out certified votes of electors on Jan. 6th so that Trump could stay in power. How extraordinary was Pence's speech? And why did he deliver it now? And how much impact will it have on the Republican Party? Yahoo News' Jon Ward joins to discuss. Then, Jim Pasco, the Executive Director at National Fraternal Order of Police joins to talk about the politics of crime.GUEST: Jon Ward (@jonward11), Chief National Correspondent @yahoonews, Author of "Camelot's End," Host of The Long Game Podcast Jim Pasco (@GLFOP), Executive Director at National Fraternal Order of Police HOSTS: Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo News Daniel Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo News Victoria Bassetti (@VBass), fellow, Brennan Center for Justice (contributing co-host)  RESOURCES: Caitlin Dickson's piece on latest Pence speech saying "Trump is wrong." - Here. The Government & Media Affairs site from the Fraternal Order of Police - Here. Follow us on Twitter: @SkullduggeryPodListen and subscribe to "Skullduggery" on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.Email us with feedback, questions or tips: [email protected]. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.