The "definitely intoxicated" Rudy Giuliani (w/ Matthew Miller & Sol Wisenberg)

Skullduggery - A podcast by Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman, Victoria Bassetti

An excerpt from one of the video clips played at Monday's January 6th Committee Hearing in which Donald Trump's campaign manager, Bill Stepien, recounts the debate that went on within the White House on election night. Stepien and other top campaign aides were telling Trump to hold off on declaring victory that night, that there were still lots more votes to be counted. And that his slender but steadily slipping margins were starting to fade away. But Trump would have none of it and listen instead to his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, "obviously intoxicated," according to his campaign aide Jason Miller, who told the President to claim he was the rightful winner in an election marked by rampant voter fraud. It was a critical moment when Trump's bogus claims of fraud, pushed in turn by his drunk lawyer, became amplified to the whole country resulting ultimately in the tragic events of January 6th. Is the committee building an air-tight case against the former President? We get perspectives from two veteran legal observers - Matt Miller, the former Chief of Public Affairs for the Justice Department during the Obama Administration and Sol Wisenberg, a criminal defense lawyer and a former top Deputy to Whitewater independent council Ken Starr. GUESTS: Matthew Miller, (@matthewamiller), Partner at Vianovo. MSNBC analyst Sol Wisenberg, (@WisenbergSol), White Collar Defense Atty. Fox News Contributor HOSTS: Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo News Daniel Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo News Victoria Bassetti (@VBass), fellow, Brennan Center for Justice (contributing co-host) RESOURCES: Yahoo News' key takeaways from the Jan. 6th Hearings Day 2 (@CEDickson) - Here. Isikoff's story about debunked allegations over voter fraud in Georgia during 2020 election - Here. Follow us on Twitter: @SkullduggeryPodListen and subscribe to "Skullduggery" on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.Email us with feedback, questions or tips: [email protected]. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.