72. Jon Ronson, a Femme Fatale for Nazis, and the Lens of Wonderment

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe writer/podcaster/documentarian Jon Ronson joins Nancy and Sarah, and they could not be more excited. Highlights include:* Jon compliments Sarah, Sarah swoons* The podcast inspired when Jon’s 11-year-old son asked if he knew PornHub* Jon’s pronunciation of porn (“pohhhhhn”) and the strange spectacle of adult entertainment, including two-camera orgies and bespoke porn* The sin of “both-sidesism”* The hardest story Jon ever had to report* Why Jon turned down Piers Morgan* Jon’s new Audible podcast “The Debutante” about the mystery of Carol Howe, who may or may not have been able to prevent the Oklahoma City bombing* Dial-A-Racist?* Informants get $25 a day?? * “Things Fell Apart” season two on the way!* The problem with defining people by small slivers of their lives* A judge caught masturbating during trial and other untold storiesGo see Jon in London! He’ll be appearing at two events later this month, a May 24 “Things Fell Apart LIVE!” and a non-fiction writing workshop on the 28.Things fell apart, but we try to put them back together. Why not become a paid subscriber?