Interdependence with Mpho Tutu van Furth

We’re feeling humbled and full of love this week as we chat to artist, speaker, writer and priest, Mpho Tutu van Furth.Mpho tells us about her experiences living under apartheid as a young girl and the freedom and justice that so many South Africans, including her family, fought for.We also hear about Mpho’s journey into priesthood and how she reluctantly handed her license back to the church after their (unfortunately unsurprising) reaction to her ‘lovely can of worms’ – AKA falling in love with a woman. Perhaps most importantly, Mpho reminds us how interconnected and interdependent we all are, and that showing a little bit of care can do a whole lot of good.Plus, Katherine and Paul reflect on some similarities they see between Mpho’s apartheid memories and life in modern-day Palestine. Like the rest of us, Paul and Katherine jump on the football bandwagon, and Katherine officially joins the #FreeBritney movement. Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT MPHO TUTU VAN FURTHThe Reverend Canon Mpho Tutu van Furth is an episcopal priest, an artist, an author, an accomplished public speaker and retreat facilitator. She has had many roles in non-profit leadership. She was the founding executive director of the Desmond & Leah Tutu Legacy Foundation. She continues to work for environmental justice, human rights and equal access to opportunity for all people without regard to race, class or gender. With her wife, Marceline, she has established and is Executive Director of the Tutu Teach Foundation to enhance access to opportunity for women and girls. Ms. Tutu van Furth and her wife live in the Netherlands. They have four children and two (amazing) grandchildren.Website | Instagram | Facebook____LINKS AND RESOURCESWhy Longtime Britney Spears Fans Are Demanding to #FreeBritneyDid Rudiger try and bite Pogba?A history of Apartheid in South AfricaDomas: Carrying Apartheid’s bookThe June 16 Soweto Youth UprisingSpace and power in South Africa: The township as a mechanism of controlThe Desmond & Leah Tutu Legacy FoundationWhat does ubuntu really mean?Truth and Reconciliation Commission____00:00 - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:48 - Katherine and Paul catch up00:00 - Katherine and Paul on Prospect Farm08:49 - Introducing Mpho Tutu van Furth09:52 - Mpho joins the conversation10:05 - Mpho on lockdown13:27 - Mpho on South African identity16:49 - Mpho on the living under apartheid23:33 - Mpho on privilege27:05 - Mpho on her journey to priesthood29:00 - Mpho on Marceline 33:58 - Mpho on church and her sexuality36:00 - Mpho on small acts of kindness38:00 - Mpho on personal spirituality 40:56 - Mpho on being loving43:47 - Mpho on ubuntu44:50 - Mpho on enjoying the journey47:18 - Mpho on forgiveness48:13 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Mpho01:01:20 - Next week on the podcast 01:01:58 - How to get in touch with us 01:02:35 - Thank you’s01:03:24 - Hidden track____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____https://www.greenbelt.org.uk/#SomewhereToBelieveIn Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.